R1 issues on new DS capture board?

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R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by Aar » Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:13 pm

Hello,

I purchased 5 self-install kits of the newest revision of DS capture board and all of them went pretty smoothly, except for one. This DS, no matter how many times I check my work and test the motherboard, displays an error with R1 in the capture software. I first noticed this issue in the opening of Pokémon Platinum, the color being slightly more brown than normal. I've re-soldered the ribbon about 3 or 4 times and can confirm the board is good, so I'm not quite sure where the issue lies at this point.

Maybe there's another point I can try soldering to?

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by loopy » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:28 am

If you've confirmed the board is ok, I'm guessing either you were too rough with it and damaged that solder point, or there's something wrong with the flex cable. I can send you another cable if you want to try redoing it. There isn't another test point you can solder to. You can solder a wire to the screen connector, or scrape away some soldermask on the PCB and attach a wire there (follow the trace from the R1 point; on top of the nearby via is probably the best candidate).

First thing I'd do, if I was repairing it, is to remove the cable and inspect underneath it. Check that the solder point wasn't torn off. Be careful not to rip any others off in the process.

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by Aar » Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:43 pm

loopy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:28 am
If you've confirmed the board is ok, I'm guessing either you were too rough with it and damaged that solder point, or there's something wrong with the flex cable. I can send you another cable if you want to try redoing it. There isn't another test point you can solder to. You can solder a wire to the screen connector, or scrape away some soldermask on the PCB and attach a wire there (follow the trace from the R1 point; on top of the nearby via is probably the best candidate).

First thing I'd do, if I was repairing it, is to remove the cable and inspect underneath it. Check that the solder point wasn't torn off. Be careful not to rip any others off in the process.
I did resolder the ribbon cable several times and can confirm that the pads weren't torn. Additionally, I tested for continuity between R1 and a nearby point that it was connected to on the board - the test succeeded, and resoldering the ribbon cable on made no difference.

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I'm more than willing to pay for another ribbon cable to test with if you're offering!

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by Aar » Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:07 pm

Hello loopy,

Apologies for the delay. I got the new flex cable in and installed it and had the exact same issue as before, I'm afraid. That would lead me to believe either the capture board or the DS motherboard is the issue here, which is bizarre to me because the motherboard tested for continuity just fine. I'm willing to send you the board if you want to mess with it etc, I can probably just buy another one and test that.

Thanks for your patience lol

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by loopy » Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:17 pm

Aar wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:13 pm
I've re-soldered the ribbon about 3 or 4 times and can confirm the board is good, so I'm not quite sure where the issue lies at this point.
Just curious, how did you confirm the board is good?

I can send another one out, I think it's pretty unlikely it's the motherboard.

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by Aar » Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:25 pm

loopy wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:17 pm
Aar wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:13 pm
I've re-soldered the ribbon about 3 or 4 times and can confirm the board is good, so I'm not quite sure where the issue lies at this point.
Just curious, how did you confirm the board is good?

I can send another one out, I think it's pretty unlikely it's the motherboard.
My confirmation was pretty basic really; I noticed that the screens of the console display totally fine but the capture on my computer had slightly off colors. I tried resoldering and had no luck, so I tested for continuity between R1 and the pad connected to it (shown in my earlier screenshot) - seemed fine to me. I am by no means experienced with soldering but it is very possible that I could have missed something.

EDIT: My main reason for wanting to keep this board is that it allows for brightness control.
EDIT2: I should probably be more specific lol, I'm pretty sure the motherboard is good but I'm not certain about the capture board. I could rip open another capture DS I have and steal the board out for testing if need be.

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by Aar » Sun Sep 11, 2022 3:18 pm

Hello again, just bumping the thread. If it'd be possible for me to get a replacement capture board sent out to test with, I'd be willing to pay for it. Honestly don't want to go through the hassle of messing with the adhesive on one that I already have installed lol.

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by DSFanatic239 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 am

Aar wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:25 pm
loopy wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:17 pm
Aar wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:13 pm
I've re-soldered the ribbon about 3 or 4 times and can confirm the board is good, so I'm not quite sure where the issue lies at this point.
Just curious, how did you confirm the board is good?

I can send another one out, I think it's pretty unlikely it's the motherboard.
My confirmation was pretty basic really; I noticed that the screens of the console display totally fine but the capture on my computer had slightly off colors. I tried resoldering and had no luck, so I tested for continuity between R1 and the pad connected to it (shown in my earlier screenshot) - seemed fine to me. I am by no means experienced with soldering but it is very possible that I could have missed something.

EDIT: My main reason for wanting to keep this board is that it allows for brightness control.
EDIT2: I should probably be more specific lol, I'm pretty sure the motherboard is good but I'm not certain about the capture board. I could rip open another capture DS I have and steal the board out for testing if need be.
I’m having the exact same problem! I also have a DS that has the motherboard with the higher brightness settings, and I still get the exact same error and red tint on the output even when soldering the points correctly!

I think it has to do with the type of motherboard, since it contains chips from a DS lite. This is the error I kept getting STUCK=DCK SPL GCK GSP I resoldered again, I looked at the PCB to see if any of the points stated in the log were on the motherboard and not all the points listed are similar to the points on the motherboard.

I will test on another motherboard tonight which does not support the higher brightness levels, to confirm my suspicions. You said you tested on four other DSs right? Do any of them have the higher brightness settings? If they don’t I'm going to assume it's because of the different motherboard of this DS you are trying to install on because of the higher brightness settings.

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by DSFanatic239 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:25 pm

I just tested on another DS motherboard that does not have the brightness settings, it worked and actually told me which points weren't soldered properly, unlike when I did it with the higher brightness settings motherboard that gave me "GCK, GSL" which seem to be none of the points that were soldered. So it has come to my conclusion that the problem is indeed got to do with the motherboards that allow higher brightness settings. This is quite strange actually, both normal boards and the brightness settings boards have the same points required for the soldering, so what could've caused this incompatibility? I noticed a chip missing on the bottom right of the NTR-CPU-20 (brightness setting DS) PCB that would usually be on a NTR-CPU-01, which could be a factor, and I guess all the other different chips I noticed which come from a DS lite.
I also remember trying to install the older version of the capture card on the same motherboard a while back, the tint was red on the screen output.
Could this just be a coincidence with just my revision of the motherboard? Aar should try on another DS motherboard too to see if it really is the motherboards that allow higher brightness settings. Loopy have you ever tried to install a capture card on these motherboard revisions before?

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Re: R1 issues on new DS capture board?

Post by lemon » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:54 pm

DSFanatic239 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:25 pm
Loopy have you ever tried to install a capture card on these motherboard revisions before?
I'm fairly certain he installed mine in a DS that can be flashed to have more brightness settings and it works perfectly fine. Mine has v5 firmware and doesn't make a pop sound when turned off, which other board revisions that came with older firmware versions seemed to do. With the battery removed I can see a "20" where my other DS says "01", so I would assume its the same board you are having issues with.

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